Hey man, I really appreciate you taking the time to step through my long-winded question/list of grievances.. You made some really good points, and rightfully corrected some of my misconceptions - regarding Jansen and his approach specifically, that was context I didn't have!
And you're absolutely right that this team has had success. That's undeniably where a lot of my frustration is coming from - I have high expectations for a reason.
On Shapiro, my impression is that from the boardroom's perspective he's done very well (ballpark renovations, the new Dunedin facility*, and the like), and that probably means he's safe, so it could still end up being Atkins who take the fall if things don't turn around this year. Then it can be pitched to fans as a kind of fresh start. But as you said, I don't think that really changes things from an overall organizational perspective.
*Leaving my own disgust at fleecing local taxpayers aside.
And hey, Vladdy at least looks to be turning things around lately. If Bo can get going, and they accept that Springer isn't the lead off guy anymore... maybe put a win streak together... oh god, oh no, they might be pulling me back in :)
It's hard to fathom that the only team in the AL that has scored fewer runs than us and has a worse run differential is the Chicago White Sox. I don't know how you can sugarcoat that. I completely agree that our fortunes lie in the performance of Springer/Bichette/Vlad. But ugh..whether they come good or not doesn't resolve the incredibly difficult decisions this FO has to make in order to try and field a potential playoff team the next few years...or not. Is Ross up to it?
Hi Andrew. Great answer to a difficult question and situation. Sometimes baseball management decisions mimic the pace of the sport. I understand why some fans want a GM like AA again or Seattle (lots of player movement). I can also see why Rogers likes Shapiro (renovations etc).
I do find myself similar with Part A writer. I have watched very few innings/games this year. Partly, I find the team bland, partly, my distaste for Buck grows more over the years.
I personally think the Jays have an opportunity to re-set a bit this year. To move some money of the books and find an exciting prospect or two. Baltimore is surging and will need a closer and or starter. They are stacked with talent. Time to make a move before Oakland moves Miller there! Bassitt/Romano?
I could see a team like LAD being creative with Springer and his contract.
I would consider moving Vlad too. He plays a replaceable position and would still fetch you some very good prospects. Cincinnati?
My sense too. If the asset (player) isn’t signed for 3 plus years, he is tradeable. That includes Gausman and Berrios (again, it’s about willingness to trade) because (1) they are your best trade assets (2) Berrios can and would opt out after a reset (26) and (3) by the time you’re good again, they’re declining. Vlad, Bo and these guys. It hurts but it’s a very quick pivot.
Hey man, I really appreciate you taking the time to step through my long-winded question/list of grievances.. You made some really good points, and rightfully corrected some of my misconceptions - regarding Jansen and his approach specifically, that was context I didn't have!
And you're absolutely right that this team has had success. That's undeniably where a lot of my frustration is coming from - I have high expectations for a reason.
On Shapiro, my impression is that from the boardroom's perspective he's done very well (ballpark renovations, the new Dunedin facility*, and the like), and that probably means he's safe, so it could still end up being Atkins who take the fall if things don't turn around this year. Then it can be pitched to fans as a kind of fresh start. But as you said, I don't think that really changes things from an overall organizational perspective.
*Leaving my own disgust at fleecing local taxpayers aside.
And hey, Vladdy at least looks to be turning things around lately. If Bo can get going, and they accept that Springer isn't the lead off guy anymore... maybe put a win streak together... oh god, oh no, they might be pulling me back in :)
It's hard to fathom that the only team in the AL that has scored fewer runs than us and has a worse run differential is the Chicago White Sox. I don't know how you can sugarcoat that. I completely agree that our fortunes lie in the performance of Springer/Bichette/Vlad. But ugh..whether they come good or not doesn't resolve the incredibly difficult decisions this FO has to make in order to try and field a potential playoff team the next few years...or not. Is Ross up to it?
Hi Andrew. Great answer to a difficult question and situation. Sometimes baseball management decisions mimic the pace of the sport. I understand why some fans want a GM like AA again or Seattle (lots of player movement). I can also see why Rogers likes Shapiro (renovations etc).
I do find myself similar with Part A writer. I have watched very few innings/games this year. Partly, I find the team bland, partly, my distaste for Buck grows more over the years.
I personally think the Jays have an opportunity to re-set a bit this year. To move some money of the books and find an exciting prospect or two. Baltimore is surging and will need a closer and or starter. They are stacked with talent. Time to make a move before Oakland moves Miller there! Bassitt/Romano?
I could see a team like LAD being creative with Springer and his contract.
I would consider moving Vlad too. He plays a replaceable position and would still fetch you some very good prospects. Cincinnati?
Sign Bo and Jansen - if they can.
Bob
My sense too. If the asset (player) isn’t signed for 3 plus years, he is tradeable. That includes Gausman and Berrios (again, it’s about willingness to trade) because (1) they are your best trade assets (2) Berrios can and would opt out after a reset (26) and (3) by the time you’re good again, they’re declining. Vlad, Bo and these guys. It hurts but it’s a very quick pivot.