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I think you're right about the third option. The course of the club is more or less locked in at this point: It’s too early to tear down and too late to significantly reset. They can deal a catcher (probably Jansen) to bring back a starter, and maybe a decent lefty bat can be obtained for prospects. But with Chapman, Gurriel, Hernandez, and Merrifield all FAs after 2023, and Springer not getting any less fragile, this is a win-right-now team.

I also agree that improvement will have to be internal. Bo actually improved his OPS+ from 2021, but his defence and baserunning both regressed (his SB-CS went from 25-1 to 13-8 and his GIDP from 10 to 21), leading his bWAR to drop from 5.4 to 3.6. He might be normally more of a 3-4 WAR guy rather than 5-6 (which is obviously still great).

Vlad is more interesting, because I'm not sure 2022 was as much of an off-year as it seemed. Brennan Delaney (https://twitter.com/Brennan_L_D/status/1575866443803275264) looked at Vlad's 2021 numbers and took out all his games in Dunedin and Buffalo (where he posted OPSs of 1.403 and 1.226, respectively). Vlad's resulting 2021 "major-league park production" was .296/.379/.514 with 27 homers in 504 PA (extrapolates to 37 over a full season). So from that perspective, here are Vlad's first four big-league slash lines (using the "major-league-only-parks" 2021 line):

2019: 514 PA, .272/.339/.433

2020: 243 PA, .262/.329/.462

2021: 504 PA, .296/.379/.514

2022: 706 PA: .274/.339/.480

Aside from a power increase, his 2022 basically replicated his 2019. 2021 was an outlier, but not by a staggering amount.

After almost 2,000 PAs in big-league parks, then, Vlad's OPS is roughly in the 850 range. Which is really good, obviously, especially for someone who debuted at 20 in this scoring environment. It's just not yet "generational talent" good. I'm obviously, *obviously* not "giving up on him." But this is something to consider when assessing how much more production Vlad is likely to generate.

Given all that, I feel like 2023 hinges on what the farm system can produce, because 2022 was pretty much a flop. While seemingly every other team got a boost from a young arm or bat this year, there were no breakout promotions in Toronto and no arms to bolster the pen or help when Ryu went down. Pearson and Hatch, who were supposed to be the top two backup starter options, gave them nothing.

If Moreno becomes a star right out of the gate next year and Zulueta/Hernandez/Tiedemann throw good innings in the majors, then the Jays really have something. If Vlad actually becomes the guy we thought he'd be, all the better. Otherwise, though, it's hard to see why the same basic team next year wouldn't generate pretty much the same basic result.

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will's avatar

Since we’re talking off-season, which would be funnier:

a) Judge signs with the Mets, or

b) Judge signs with the Red Sox

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